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Message: [QUOTE="davehc, post: 128149, member: 2"] well, my first suggestion of a clean install worked, but, as you have said yourself, it then failed again so it is, very obviously, somethig you are subsequently installing. This bit intrigues me " or I have something slowing down I my Internet access to Microsoft" Why that comment? Are you signed in with an MS account or other? What are you using - finger print; facial..etc. I would go into the startup panel and disable all of the third party software you have installed - including Mcafee. Re-enable one by one. By the way, If you wish to use Mcafee, it is not disputable. But third party antivirus is seen on forums to have numerous conflictions with the built in Defender and, fwiw, Defender is rated higher than Mcafee by the statistic boffins. [/QUOTE]