Is Anyone Truly Happy With Windows 10 ?

[trev]

tell us your ratings for windows 10 and how you feel about it in all . seems to me that it is intrusive , badly designed rubbish and not very good . i dont like the way windows seems to have control of OUR computers whether we want them to or not .

 

[davehc]

Yes. Not too much in favour of the update system.

 

[Bif]

For the most part yes, but Microsoft has single handedly taken the "personal" out of personal computer.

 

[Defender01]

Yes. Not too much in favour of the update system.

I agree that this w 10 update system is not good.
At least if you have the pro version you do have some control.

 

[T_J]

I have a 2012 Dell desktop, Windows 10 Home v 1511. According to Mary Jo Foley this week (Windows Weekly), sounds like my PC should get the anniversary update by Nov 2 maybe, that's soon enough for me. Since I currently have zero problems, I'd give W10 a score of 9.0 .
During W7 to W10 free upgrade I did the customize settings install and turned off all intrusive operations, such as 'let apps use your advertising ID ...'.
All my 'personal' software works perfect: Garmin MapSource (2008) both Inland Lakes US and Topo US 2008, Office Starter 2010, Adobe Photoshop Elements 9, Bushnell Scouting Assistant, Windows Live Mail 2012, Edge, Chrome v53.0.2785.116m (64bit), Canon MG2120 (Scan, Copy, Print).

 

[Norton]

No control, no use for all of the apps. All I use is MS 210 Office and browsing. MS have too much control, I understand now why the upgrade was offered for free. MS attitude now is "You'll do as I say.
I have returned to using Windows 7 a what a pleasure it is.

 

[Michael Bell]

My first experience with windows was version Win3.1 going from a flashing curser you had to type WIN to use windows we have come a long way. But its the up date to me is more of a issue and lack of information and the hidden tricks that are found by trial and error.
Recently a up date was stuck for1607 on 9/13/16, I over the months of using WIn10 found a link to hid the failed up date but that was just hiding the problem.
I read on one post use Update catalog but I did not now how too. BY accident found by looking in up date history in settings clicking failed update got me to the catalog. It needed to open in Internet Explorer not edge why I thought they are trying to dump Explorer.
I have One note and I have created a note labeled Win10 Quirks on that note I have 9 pages on what to do or where to go to fix things. One note allows you to create a link to fix things. Basically I am writing my own , how to useWIn10 Manuel.

 

[Norton]

Michael I agree! It's pretty bad when you have to write your own flight and maintenance manuals before yo can fly. Even "Windows for Dummies" is useless with Microsoft's latest attempt to dominate the internet and mobile world.

 

[Old Guy Geek]

I have Windows 10 running on 2 desktops, 2 laptops and a 7" tablet. Absolutely no issues at all. No hangs, no blue screens. One of the desktops is running the preview 'fast' version and it only has the problems that are addressed in the release notes. I have installed Windows 10 on many other people's desktops and laptops. I have a 950XL and 928 phone running Windows 10 mobile. My wife has an ICON, here 85+ year old parents have 640s on Windows 10. All good.

Like Michael Bell, above, I've been on Windows since the early years (Windows 2.0). Sure I've had problems during each major revision, some more than others. But, by far, Windows 10 is the best upgrade experience ever. Not only does the upgrade go smoothly but your can repair, rollback or whatever you need to do to get to the place you would like to be. Years earlier you couldn't go back to an earlier version unless you had your install media and other software install disks and basically wiped everything.

As for privacy, when I logged into Google today, I got a screen that talked about how they are changing and much had to do with privacy and storing data. If you are that worried that someone is getting access to your data there isn't an OS out there that doesn't. At least with a little research you can turn off most of the settings in Windows 10.

And by the way, years ago when you subscribed to that Guns & Ammo or Playboy, don't you think they had your name and address? Or when you use your grocery store membership card, they don't know your ID and exactly what you bought? And they used that data to send out paper mailers to your address and offer you more of the same. Oh yeah, now your get the coupons directly from the checkout machine. From YOUR data.

Let's not forget Visa or MasterCard knowing all your purchase history for the last 20 years. Hell, Sears knew I bought a new washer in 1989 and sent me offers in the mail.

Today people are worried about privacy when 90% is just aggregated data that helps companies to a couple of things.

1. Market their services to you and others
2. Improve their systems (data networks, server capacity, etc)
3. Provide other services (your GPS info helps provide real-time traffic to others)

There are other things as well, but what they are NOT doing is:

1. Identifying your PERSONAL browsing history in order to expose your daily porn habit.
2. Identifying your PERSONAL data history to expose private data to your friends, bank or enemies.
3. Give your data to hackers so they can hack into your system
4. Watching you on your camera
5. etc.

As for forcing upgrades, I'm perfectly happy to have them control the upgrades. I always had them on when I was on Windows 7 anyway. I'm GLAD they make everyone's else's system more secure so that other users are more secure from hackers which endangers us all.

So am I happy? Ecstatic. More and more Windows UWP apps are coming out. If you aren't at least investigating what's new in the Apps, you're doing yourself a disservice. While most of my stuff is still Desktop (Office 365, Visual Studio, Video Production software, Accounting software, etc.), I expect more and more will move over to Windows apps. I can't wait until every one of my apps can be restored with their data because my license and usage is in the cloud. No more giant library of discs. No more install files and text files or stickers with a license I need to keep in case of a problem.

Sure there was pain, especially when Windows 8 came out. But stuff get resolved. Gets improved and I do trust Microsoft to keep improving it.

 

[powrus]

As someone just hanging on by their fingertips here, I don't see the overall benefit of Win10 over my previous Win7 OS. If some amazing enhancements are happening somewhere hidden deeply within the Win10 OS that's okay with me. However, every Tuesday's update keeps me wondering what will I need to fix now in order for the latest update to download in good order - and why do I care? Why is MS affecting my daily life in this manner?

Is anyone really in charge at MS, or is MS really a thousand builders and writers scattered throughout the world, each trying to shore up the other's [assumed] Win10 weekly improvements?

 

[Stevekir]

No, not happy. My system freezes for about 20 to 30 secs. when started and again over several minutes. Other glitches. Having the C: drive on an SSD is blamed for this. No sign of a fix. Although like W10, if it is not fixed soon I will go back to W7.

powrus said: "However, every Tuesday's update keeps me wondering what will I need to fix now in order for the latest update to download in good order". How true. What a mess.

 

[Defender01]

As someone just hanging on by their fingertips here, I don't see the overall benefit of Win10 over my previous Win7 OS. If some amazing enhancements are happening somewhere hidden deeply within the Win10 OS that's okay with me. However, every Tuesday's update keeps me wondering what will I need to fix now in order for the latest update to download in good order - and why do I care? Why is MS affecting my daily life in this manner?

Is anyone really in charge at MS, or is MS really a thousand builders and writers scattered throughout the world, each trying to shore up the other's [assumed] Win10 weekly improvements?

Perhaps its best to just check for updates every two months by then they may have an update that fixes previous updates.
Not sure what control you have in the home edition but the pro version does at best give some control.
I have mine set to notify and then i search to see what benefit the update has to me if none it isn't installed.

 

[Old Guy Geek]

No, not happy. My system freezes for about 20 to 30 secs. when started and again over several minutes. Other glitches. Having the C: drive on an SSD is blamed for this. No sign of a fix. Although like W10, if it is not fixed soon I will go back to W7.

Don't know why you say having the C: drive on an SSD is to blame. I switched to SSD when Win 8 came out and haven't looked back.

Can you give some system specs about your Lenovo Ideacentre i5? How much ram, drives? In the meantime, I would check what programs you have installed by looking at the Control Panel. There's a very good possibility that you have a bunch of crapware from Lenovo and other third-party vendors installed. They could very easily be the cause of your problem. Especially if you find McAfee or Norton installed. If you do have another anti-virus, I would suggest that you remove it and use the built-in Defender and download Malaware Bytes (the free version).

 

[Been There]

No, not happy. My system freezes for about 20 to 30 secs. when started and again over several minutes. Other glitches. Having the C: drive on an SSD is blamed for this. No sign of a fix. Although like W10, if it is not fixed soon I will go back to W7.

powrus said: "However, every Tuesday's update keeps me wondering what will I need to fix now in order for the latest update to download in good order". How true. What a mess.

Have to agree with Stevekir here, when I turn on these three PCs with Win 10 home and Pro, it's a surprise to see the "welcome" sign meaning all went well this time. Otherwise, it is a guessing game on what the next problem will be. The last build this past week sent another question on what happen. Like this now show's up when I turn on the computer with Win home. "The file is possibly corrupt, The file header checksum does not match the computed checksum"

What is the hell it this all about?

 

[T_J]

My 2012 Dell Windows 7 desktop (non-SSD) ran great and had zero problems with [McAfee products from 2012 to Feb 2016]. After W10 free upgrade in February 2016, Dell (non-SSD) has zero problems with McAfee Total Protection 2015. My Dell works great with McAfee products with either W7 or W10. Currently have W10 home v1511.
Installed McAfee Total Protection 2015 in Nov 2015 (W7), uninstalled MTP 2015 during W10 upgrade in Feb 2016, reinstalled MTP 2015 (W10) with remaining portion of 1-year subscription.

 

[Old Guy Geek]

What is the hell it this all about?

When systems read files they compute the 'checksum' of the file it is reading. It is a mathematical value that basically represents the condition of the file from it's contents. If the file is read and the checksum does not match the correct, stored value, it is a sign that the file is either corrupted or been replaced with another file of the same name.

Have you run 'sfc /scannow' to check your system files out? It should detect and fix any errors with the files. You may have to run it several times before it comes back with no errors.

Since you said 'the last build', I assume you are on the Insider program? There is a danger that you will get something funky when you get any of the pre-release versions.

 

[Stevekir]

Don't know why you say having the C: drive on an SSD is to blame. I switched to SSD when Win 8 came out and haven't looked back.

Can you give some system specs about your Lenovo Ideacentre i5? How much ram, drives? In the meantime, I would check what programs you have installed by looking at the Control Panel. There's a very good possibility that you have a bunch of crapware from Lenovo and other third-party vendors installed. They could very easily be the cause of your problem. Especially if you find McAfee or Norton installed. If you do have another anti-virus, I would suggest that you remove it and use the built-in Defender and download Malaware Bytes (the free version).

The system freezing is a common bug much reported on W10forum and widely attributed to having the C: drive on an SSD. It froze again just now.

Lenovo Ideascentre i5, 8 GB RAM,. SSD (containing C: and all programs), 256 GB, Crucial, Internal rotating HD (D), 2 GB having personal files (Docs, Pictures etc.), 2 ext. USB HDs, 2 TB each for backups. FreeFileSync backups my (D) regularly. Attached is a clip showing some more specs, and a list of my programs.

EDIT. Have just done scannow. No problem found (third attachment).

Thanks for taking an interest.

 

[Trouble]

is anyone truly happy with windows 10 ?

While I can't speak for "anyone" .... speaking for my self.... not so much.
I think at this point, I'm at best, underwhelmed.

The way it's being managed (or mismanaged) depending on your point of view. I would have expected at the very least, one year after RTM to have a locked down, extremely stable Operating System for my device(s).

Unfortunately, the apparent model of "Windows as a Service" is going to continue to involve what is seemingly a never ending, non-stop, organically growing, expanding (features and functions) and evolving Operating System.

While that may, to some, be a very attractive concept, especially those who are always wanting the new and flashy app or willing to pay $500 bucks plus for a phone...... for those of us who desire stability and dependablity in order to get our day to day tasks taken care of...... not so attractive.

I have played with Windows 10 since the very first "Technical Preview" before they started calling them "Insider Previews" and now, all these months later, I still have the feeling that I'm still "playing" with it. I don't have the sense of it being anything that represents stability, reliablity or dependability and if I was in a work environment where, uptime was critical, I'm pretty sure that I, like others have, would have rolled back to a previous OS, a long time ago.

At this point, even though my data is no longer as volatile as it used to be, I would still never consider running Windows 10 without frequent backups and disk images, because I simply don't know when the next upgrade / update will result in a problem that I may or may not be able to recover from.

 

[Tim Locke]

Don't know why you say having the C: drive on an SSD is to blame. I switched to SSD when Win 8 came out and haven't looked back.

Can you give some system specs about your Lenovo Ideacentre i5? How much ram, drives? In the meantime, I would check what programs you have installed by looking at the Control Panel. There's a very good possibility that you have a bunch of crapware from Lenovo and other third-party vendors installed. They could very easily be the cause of your problem. Especially if you find McAfee or Norton installed. If you do have another anti-virus, I would suggest that you remove it and use the built-in Defender and download Malaware Bytes (the free version).

The original problem reported to Microsoft was:

If the C: drive that is the boot drive and OS drive is an SSD AND the data, such as documents, pictures etc are on a rotating drive the system could possibly hang.

I have 4 PCs all with the latest W10 and all with SSD C: drives and NONE of them hang. BUT I don't have the data directories on a separate drive except in ione case where I have Downloads on a HDD. One of my machines is a Lenovo Ideapad with the HDD swapped for an SSD.

 

[Old Guy Geek]

The system freezing is a common bug much reported on W10forum and widely attributed to having the C: drive on an SSD. It froze again just now.

Thanks for all the screenshots and such. I have to agree with Tim Locke. I have all SSD on the C: drive and separate HDs and neither of my desktop systems has ever hung. By the way, I have changed all my Library settings to the new directories so I don't have to browse to them each time I want to read or save something.

As far as your screenshots, do you have the full protection suite from AVG and Malwarebytes running at the same time or is you Malwarebytes only scanning on command? Multiple active virus protection is usually a bad thing.

As for your other programs you have loaded like FreeFileSync, Belarc, Canon and such, I can't speak to but check your running processes and see how much stuff is loaded and the resources they are consuming.

If you can't really tell if one is the evil one, try uninstalling each one at a time. Then reboot and see if the behavior still exists. Give yourself enough time after boot until you are sure the hang is not happening.

I understand that many people prefer a different array of utilities that help them with a specific task on their PC, but I tend to be the minimalist type. I very rarely use a utility that enhances a function in Windows. Many times the developer uses shortcuts to achieve their purpose or doesn't care about the impact on a system.

Just my opinion, but it's rarely Microsoft's fault. But it's an opinion that has been validated over 30 years of Windows experience.

Hope you find out what's causing your hangs. Keep us posted!!!