The constitution versus Security

[Trouble]

Was just reading this
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/...amendment-does-not-protect-your-home-computer

While I do not support or endorse and quite frankly am often appalled at what some people use their computers for, I still can't believe that

the federal government does not need a warrant to hack into an individual's computer.

AND....
I don't believe that this ruling will stand as potential legal precedent and not be overturned in a higher court or appeals.

 

[Tim Locke]

As a non American nor an 'American person' all I can say is You guys should never have passed the Patriot Act which is what a lot of this stuff comes from...that and making up the Homeland Security department. I appreciate that you had some reason to be a little bit paranoid after 9/11 but you overreacted quite a lot domestically, let alone Afghanistan and then Iraq.

By the end of that September it was known that the bad guys were mostly Saudis and the paymasters certainly were/are. To me that pointed to a perfectly good excuse to deal with them and leave the bit players alone.

 

[Trouble]

Couldn't agree more.
Of course that's

you overreacted

What happens when you have a conservative Republican President and a Vice President (formerly head of Haliburton) so hawkish and steeped in the Military Industrial Complex, which another Republican President....
General Dwight David Eisenhower warned against

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

SOURCE: http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html
So here we are, approaching the 15th Anniversary of 9/11, the domestic economy struggling, security lines at airports so long that you can miss your flight, mass shootings seems like every month or so and our national image globally at an all time low. So how's that working out for you, you might ask.... Not too good.
AND, best of all....... wait for it.....
We're currently eyeing another dunce to elect as president.
What could possibly go wrong.

"What, me worry"?
Alfred E. Neuman

 

[Tim Locke]

You do seem to have a choice between a dunce and a person who, in my not very informed opinion might be very dangerous. Because that person thinks that they know it all because of the jobs they have had and how close they have been to power before that they won't employ good advisers, just ones/friends that say yes.
The dunce tho' knowing that they don't know much will probably employ good advisers and listen to them.

 

[Norton]

Apple didn't bow under pressure from the FBI to give them a back door into the Iphone.

.I haven't heard the word dunce since I was in school in the U.K.
Tim are you (a dunce) talking about a Presidential candidate. LOL

 

[Tim Locke]

Trouble first used the word not me.

 

[Norton]

Trouble first used the word not me.

I bet Trouble is in his late 60's LOL

US Class Action Layers seem to be more successful at launching Class Action Law Suits than their northern partners in the profession. I can see the headlines in the LA Times and TV Adds.
"If you are a user of Microsoft 10, your privacy may be jeopardized by Microsoft and its advertisers.
Call 1-714-xxx-xxxxx

 

[Trouble]

66 but let's not quibble over a year or two, here or there.
My concern regarding the actual topic of the thread is that....
I suspect that we, as a nation, have some very serious cyber-security concerns involving critical national infrastructure that is likely being beat silly on a daily basis by anyone from a foreign nation state to some kid in his grandma's basement.
AND
Intstead of focusing all our various law-enforcement resources to better protect those, what do we do..... we turn our attention to our own citizens. Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending Joe Pervert commiting heinous acts with respect to child pornography. I can't even say, on this forum, what I think someone like that deserves as a punishment.
I'm just worried about the gradual and oh so subtle errosion of our civil liberties that we all to often take for granted and what kind of world I'll be leaving to my 8 year old grand daughter. George Orwell's 1984??

 

[Norton]

Trouble I have to agree with you. If we don't care or protect our kids or grand kids future who will? 8 year old's don't worry about what the future holds for them. Like I mentioned in another post it gets like more like the movie War of Worlds were intelligent extraterrestrials control our thoughts and what we do.