Networked computers do not all show up in explorer


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I have a home workgroup consisting of 6 wired computers. Four run the latest version of Windows 10 Home. The other 2 are Windows XP computers. Using share names or mapped networks drives I can access all 6 computers from each of the other 5. My problem is that they can not all see each other in the network section of file manager as I have always done before. I lost that ability after an earler upgrade. The two XP computers normally show only each other, and the 4 Windows 10 computers can only see each other. One of the windows 10 computers normally lists all 6, but not always. When that does happen, it’s always the computer that was turned on first.

The exception to these comments occurs if I start one of the XP computers first and let it boot before I start the other 5. In that instance all 6 computers show up in file manager on all 6 computers. That’s my goal! But I use the XP computers infrequently and rarely would they be the first on.

I’m presumming that this problem has something to do with the master browser, but I’m not very familiar with that concept and how to configure it. Any ideas on how I might resolve this issue and get all 6 computers to display in file manager on all computers regardless of start otder?
 
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Personally, I have 2-W10 1803 and 2- Win 7 computers and sometimes all the computers showed up under Network in File Explorer and sometimes some showed up and sometimes none showed up.
I ended up just Mapping all the computer drives that I wanted to see and all work fine now.
For some reason W10 sure seems flaky on Networking since I never had any of these problems until W10 came out.
 
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Until about a couple of months ago, my Synology NAS and PC both appeared under Network in File Explorer. It seems that one day then, they just disappeared. This now always occurs after first switching on the PC. The situation can be recovered by restarting the PC, but who wants to keep doing that?
A lot of people appear to be suffering from this on the web and there are suggestions that it happened after a particular Windows 10 update. I can't vouch for this.
There are many suggestions on the web for fixing the problem, but none have been permanent in my case. One in particular is to re-activate smb1.0/cifs file sharing support. However it is understood that Windows no longer considers this safe, and I didn't find it a permanent fix anyway.
The latest suggestion I tried was to delete any entries in the registry under HKEYCURRENTUSER\Software\Microsoft\Wind\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPoints2 that starts with ##. I found one and deleted it and this seemed to work for a day or so, but then the items under Network disappeared again and I found that the deleted registry entry had re-appeared of its own accord!
As CADesertRat, I too have mapped My NAS Share Folder, which does effectively solve the access problem, but not the issue.
Would still like to hear from anyone who believes they have the definitive answer, or is it something that needs feeding back to Microsoft for a solution?
 
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Until about a couple of months ago, my Synology NAS and PC both appeared under Network in File Explorer. It seems that one day then, they just disappeared. This now always occurs after first switching on the PC. The situation can be recovered by restarting the PC, but who wants to keep doing that?
A lot of people appear to be suffering from this on the web and there are suggestions that it happened after a particular Windows 10 update. I can't vouch for this.
There are many suggestions on the web for fixing the problem, but none have been permanent in my case. One in particular is to re-activate smb1.0/cifs file sharing support. However it is understood that Windows no longer considers this safe, and I didn't find it a permanent fix anyway.
The latest suggestion I tried was to delete any entries in the registry under HKEYCURRENTUSER\Software\Microsoft\Wind\CurrentVersion\Explorer\MountPoints2 that starts with ##. I found one and deleted it and this seemed to work for a day or so, but then the items under Network disappeared again and I found that the deleted registry entry had re-appeared of its own accord!
As CADesertRat, I too have mapped My NAS Share Folder, which does effectively solve the access problem, but not the issue.
Would still like to hear from anyone who believes they have the definitive answer, or is it something that needs feeding back to Microsoft for a solution?
Yes, Mine also is random at showing up under network again, I believe it went back to that after I got 1803 thru WU's. When W10 first came out the problem wasn't prevalent and it seemed fine all the way through ver. 1709 but went to H$!! after that in 1803 and beyond.
 
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Hi again

I'm going to refer you to: .

I found this yesterday. It suggests three methods of fixing this problem. I applied methods 1 and 3 (some of which I had already done). I chose not to include method 3 because it concerns re-activating smb1.0/cifs file sharing support which I've already referred to as possibly being unsafe.

Something in methods 1 and 3 appears to have had the desired effect, because to date, when starting my PC, both my NAS and PC are appearing immediately under Network. Could be early days but seems promising.
 
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In method 1, I have everything already setup as it say's except that I have password protected sharing turned on since all of my computers are password protected.
In method 2, I already had SMB 1 turned on.
In method 3, I had already set the first 4 to Automatic (delayed start) but the last 3 I haven't checked yet.
I haven't re-checked any of those settings lately to see if they were possibly changed by the version upgrades so I will have to do that.
Basically, since I mapped the drives and have had access to them, I have just let it slide.
Thanks for the MS Answers link as it may be helpful. :)
 
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It was early days, as the devices under Network did disappear again. So I went on to Mala_S's latter advice of Enabling NETBIOS over TCP/IP on Windows. This seemed to ring a bell and I begun to feel certain I had already done this, but when I got there it wasn't enabled, so I enabled it (again?) and hey presto my entries under Network have returned (temporarily?).

I'm beginning to wonder whether some of these settings are reverting of their own accord and giving these problems. Now that is concerning and presents a no win situation. I'll report further.
 
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As I said earlier, W10 seemed to be fine with networking until I hit 1709 and then networking protocols seem to get changed for the worse.
I did change the other settings in Services.msc but it made no difference so far.
 
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Yesterday I decided to Reset Network, something I've done before, to see if would make any difference this time. Unfortunately it didn't and nothing was showing under Network last night. I turned on the PC this morning, expecting to have to check all the settings that I've tried before, in case Network Resetting had changed them, only to find that both my NAS and PC were showing again under Network!!! I did notice this morning that my PC started up much quicker than it normally does - don't know if that is related or not.

Regrettably there seems to be no consistency to any of this and unless Microsoft wakes up to this issue (on the assumption that they know about it or even care) and do something about it, we may have to make do with our mapping alternative solution.

It's been good to chat to you. Thanks
 
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Hi again.

A couple of days ago I installed Windows 10 1809 for x64 2019 -03 update and since then my devices under Network have been showing up following PC start-up, something that hadn't been happening. Admittedly at one time today they did disappear, but very soon returned. This is a distinct improvement - let's hope it endures. Will advise
 
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Me again

Installed Windows 10 1809 for x64 2019-04 yesterday and situation still promising. Devices under Network are now still appearing.
 
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