SOLVED microsoft is a joke.

[poorguy]

hey all,

what a reason that microsoft can come up with to bail out of giving one the windows 10 upgrade.
were sorry this computer cannot run windows 10 because their are no graphics card drivers for my graphics card.

amazing! i was able to run the preview and download and install driver for vista and windows 7 that worked on my graphics card which is a nvidia geforce 210 pci-e. what a big crock of microsoft crap. just because the are to damn stupid to download a driver do they think that we are. this is why people think that they SUCK BECAUSE THEY DO. don't do me any favors microsoft because i have never had to call you to help me fix any problem i have ever had with your poorly written OS.

the poorguy

 

[BigFeet]

Nvidia has Windows 10 drivers for for the 210. Try installing them on your present OS, and then try to update.
These are the 64 bit version.
http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/87988

 

[Trouble]

And as an aside.....
Hardware drivers are not the responsibility of the Operating System. Those are up to the specific hardware / chipset manufacturer to write and provide support for.

I'm not defending Microsoft, there's plenty that they have, are and will like continue to get wrong, but not hardware drivers.

Now foisting the drivers on us, disregarding out settings to the contrary and pushing what amount to beta drivers from nVidia and others...... that is way, wrong.

 

[poorguy]

will have to try that. i saw them on the nvidia website the other day so thats why i didn't see why they wouldn't send me the upgrade.
liked the windows 10 preview and even like windows 8 that was given to me free and not used.
i will give it a try and see what happens. thanks for the input.

the poorguy

 

[poorguy]

hey trouble,
yep i know that it isn't up to microsoft to provide drivers for my hardware. nvidia already has them available. all i need is the upgrade to be downloaded from microsoft so that i can install the driver. give me the windows 10 download i can get drivers to work.

the poorguy

 

[Trouble]

I'm pretty much the same way.
So I just went and got it myself.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/techbench
OR
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

 

[poorguy]

I'm pretty much the same way.
So I just went and got it myself.
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/techbench
OR
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

ok trouble good set of links. so once i make a iso dvd it should install over my legal w7 and activate i am assuming. if so then i shall be set.
thanks for the extra brain power as mine always get cluttered when i get P.O.

 

[Trouble]

once i make a iso dvd it should install over my legal w7 and activate i am assuming.

That's correct.
From within Win7 you just run setup.exe from the DVD you've created from the ISO.
Backup your critical data and make a disk image.
If you've been reading this forum, then you know that not everything always goes as planned.

 

[poorguy]

ok thanks trouble and as always i do plan on some issues, although sometimes i am surprised when all goes well. won't know till i am there.

thanks the poorguy

 

[poorguy]

hey trouble,
downloaded iso and wrote it to a dvd.
install went without a hitch.
all appears to be good.
the iso way is the best way to do the upgrade in my opinion.

thanks the poorguy

 

[Trouble]

Glad to hear you've managed to install successfully and everything seems OK.
There are sure a lot of people who haven't been as fortunate.

 

[poorguy]

hey trouble,
all was well with my install until I decided to download the nvidia driver for windows 10 and man that was a big mistake because it turned my monitor into a strobe. wasn't able to do anything with it so wound up doing a complete install again and all is well. I am going to stay with the driver that loaded from Microsoft and see what happens byt all is well again for now.

the poorguy

 

[Trouble]

big mistake because it turned my monitor into a strobe

Been hearing some about this particular issue and nVidia GPU drivers.
According to what I've been reading it seems to be associated with some of the advanced functions of the nVidia suite (nVidia Control Panel) -> manage 3D Settings.
When I install the nVidia driver suite, I always perform a custom install and choose the "Clean" checkbox and uncheck the box or boxes (don't remember if there is more that one) that reference anything to do with 3D.

Currently running the latest driver direct from nVidia (but I think it is actually the same one that you get from Windows Updates), with no issues.

 

[poorguy]

well all is well and running excellent. I think the best way to do the install is by your suggestion of downloading the iso and creating a dvd. I had no install problems at all.

do you think that windows defender and Malwarebytes is enough. also is there a way to set up scan times in windows defender, been unable to locate any settings for this.
thanks
the poorguy

 

[Trouble]

do you think that windows defender and Malwarebytes is enough

It's all I've been using for quite some time now
Defender and Malwarebytes Pro
It's subjective, everyone has their own opinion, but.......
The truth of the matter is, in reality the best protection against infection is always going to be, the person setting at the keyboard with mouse in hand...... You!!
Anyone who thinks otherwise is probably just fooling themselves.
Nothing is bulletproof or 100% reliable, nor foolproof from the determined and persistent fool.

 

[poorguy]

I forgot to mention my download of common sense antivirus.
I totally agree best antivirus is the person doing the driving down the cyber road.
I have always used avg free and have always had good results with it unlike a lot of the horror stories that others have had. also have always used Malwarebytes free and no problems.

got to say although sometimes I get PO at Microsoft I still like their OS and windows 10 pro in my case seems to be really good. it also seems to run very well on this old dell dimension that is at least 8years old, one that I saved from big trash day from my neighbor who can't believe that it works again.

so now I must say thanks to Microsoft for a cool new OS.
thanks for all the help. this forum kicks butt and as always can find the right solution here.

the poorguy

 

[poorguy]

heres an update that seems to be causing a lot of problems "KB3081424" it seems to fail and then when it tries to reinstall it starts running in a loop and keeps failing to install and keeps crashing. here is the link http://www.infoworld.com/article/29...tch-kb-3081424-can-crash-fail-to-install.html

 

[Defender01]

heres an update that seems to be causing a lot of problems "KB3081424" it seems to fail and then when it tries to reinstall it starts running in a loop and keeps failing to install and keeps crashing. here is the link http://www.infoworld.com/article/29...tch-kb-3081424-can-crash-fail-to-install.html

Hmm yes makes an interesting read as i did eventually get it to work but had the same problem installing it on three PCs
Not sure i would recommend this.
{quote}
Microsoft rolled out a Cumulative Update for Windows 10 -- KB3081424 today. It downloaded and tried to install -- got about 30% of the way through, rebooted and then went through a number of reboot cycles to uninstall the changes.

The solution that seems to work involves a registry edit to delete stunted user profiles that shouldn't be there. Here's how to troubleshoot your system:

Step 1. Click inside the Cortana search box and type regedit. When "Regedit / Run command" appears at the top of the list, press Enter. (Or you can click or tap.)

Step 2. Inside regedit, on the left, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList

Step 3. Important! Back up the registry key. With ProfileList highlighted, click File, Export. Choose a location (like your desktop) and type in a name (like ProfileListBeforeIBrokeIt) and press Save.

Step 4. On the left, you'll see a list of profile IDs, most likely including S-1-5-18, S-1-5-19, S-1-5-20, and several more with much longer names. Chances are good one of them represents a bad profile that should've been deleted.

Step 5. Click on each of the long-name profiles in turn, and look on the right for ProfileImagePath. If any of the entries in ProfileList point to a ProfileImagePath that doesn't make sense, right-click on the profile ID and choose Delete.

Step 6. "X" out of regedit. Reboot your machine. If something goes horribly wrong, double-click on the file you created in Step 3 to restore the Registry. (You can try the whole process over again, but choose a different ProfileList.) If all is well, click Start, Settings, Update & Security. KB 3081424 should be there, and will most likely start installing again while you're watching.

I've seen several culprits blamed for leaving behind bad profiles, but haven't been able to narrow it down yet. My guess is several programs or utilities chop off profiles and leave them dangling, and the afflicted ran those programs under Win7 or Win8, then upgraded in place to Windows 10.

The problem, of course, isn't only the never-ending update. The real problem is that we don't have tools to block the patch on affected machines.

If Microsoft ever tells us what happened -- or if it reissues KB 3081424 -- I'll let you know.

 

[poorguy]

sounds like you had better luck on the fix. i gave up and i am going to reinstall and keep my eyes open also for that update. i think in my own opinion that waiting 2 or 3 months might be a better solution for some people as it seems that their are too many problems that are happening in the updates that screw up things. seems as they may have released this OS to soon. this is just my opinion from my own experience with my installs which go well and then now the issues with some of the updates. hopefully MS will fix them and they will run and install without any issues. it has been interesting though.

the poorguy

 

[Defender01]

sounds like you had better luck on the fix. i gave up and i am going to reinstall and keep my eyes open also for that update. i think in my own opinion that waiting 2 or 3 months might be a better solution for some people as it seems that their are too many problems that are happening in the updates that screw up things. seems as they may have released this OS to soon. this is just my opinion from my own experience with my installs which go well and then now the issues with some of the updates. hopefully MS will fix them and they will run and install without any issues. it has been interesting though.
the poorguy

Yes if it fails to install it goes into a loop and has three attempts after that windows boots up in normal windows.
Then it says there is an update available { KB3081424} one of my PCs took for attempts before installing properly.
{ Another hour Microsoft has taken from my life}